ArtRage 3 and Linux

[Aldrik]

You're right Import broken as well

I'm using artrage pro v3.5.4 and wine v1.3.32 and import/export is working again.

It's possible, but I can't promise anything until I do some digging!

I bought my copy after seeing these posts — I'm a little disappointed there was no follow up.

[MattRage]

We reduced the panel shadows with the 3.5 version to help with the problem but the changes required to remove all external floating palettes are large enough that we haven't been able to address them at this point.

[meho_r]

There is another issue with v.3 I've noticed today, after reading a question on winehq. After some testing, here's what I've found out:

1. Installation went OK. corefonts and gdiplus installed with winetricks.
2. Starting AR3 went OK. Registering, checking update, etc.
3. Closing the app and starting it again: all fine, no problems.
4. Now here's the catch: if I maximize the AR3 window and close it while it's still maximized, when I try to start AR3 again, the window doesn't appear. It seems that AR3 is running, but it's "invisible", both on screen and on panel/taskbar. But its process is shown as running.

So, it seems that maximizing the window causes the problem about which the user from the link above asked. Any ideas?

P.S. Tested on Debian Wheezy 64-bit, wine 1.3.32, AR3 v.3.0.8 and v.3.5.4, with KDE 4.6.

EDIT: As a temporary solution to get AR3 started again – that is after I forgot to "un-maximize" the window before closing it – I deleted ArtRage.prs file located in:
~/.wine/drive_c/users/<your_username>/Application Data/Ambient Design/ArtRage 3/

[blurymind]

here is a startup script that removes the need to manually delete the dreaded file

#!/bin/bash
rm ~/.wine/drive_c/users/$USER/Application\ Data/Ambient\ Design/ArtRage\ 3/ArtRage.prs
sleep 1
wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Ambient\ Design/ArtRage\ Studio\ Pro/ArtRage\ Studio\ Pro.exe

just assign this script to be the path to execute artrage in your menu editor (gnome shell users)

if you cant stand the black borders, check out mypaint. Its an excellent piece of software that offers its latest and greatest exclusively to the linux platform!

[blurymind]

Upgrading to wine 1.5.19 (dev version) removes the ugly black borders around the windows and also the bug with the corrupted startup *.prs file that my script above fixes.

However, it's very laggy and unresponsive when you make a stroke. In order to fix that, go to edit>artrage preferences> Multithreading and disable multithreading.

Thank you Artrage developers for making this version wine friendly.
Thank you wine developers for loving artrage and supporting it.

As a result I bought a copy of AR studio pro 3 today!
bye bye ar2 and demo versions of 3 that didnt work on linux very well

[blurymind]

ok now that 4 is out, I will buy an upgrade when wine supports it.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...sion&iId=27665

it currently doesnt

[aardbewoner]

Yes i run 4 in virtualbox with xp to make it a WC
Hope the keep artrage working on xp in the future to , so
can keep using it ! Or a linux version

[blurymind]

Yes i run 4 in virtualbox with xp to make it a WC
Hope the keep artrage working on xp in the future to , so
can keep using it ! Or a linux version

virtualbox is not an option to me. My HD space is too limited on this laptop.

As far as I know 4's installer is unfunctional on wine. Maybe someone will find a workaround

[MattRage]

While I don't really know anything about Linux I do know about the ArtRage installer so in case it's any help, here's some info:

The ArtRage installer is just a bootstrapped MSI, same as the ArtRage 3 installer so there shouldn't actually be any difference in how they operate. The AR4 Demo installer is the same as well, if that works then the full one should.

Neither the 4 nor 3.5 installers do anything particularly complex. The most complex part would probably be the thumbnail DLL installer system which checks for the version of the OS and whether it's 32 or 64 bit, then installs the DLL and either tells it to self register (32 bit systems) or runs the DLL registration command from Windows after installation (64 bit systems, due to a quirk of how 64 bit DLLs work).

Ah, of course there is one other big difference: The Style. We shifted to a later installer UI style and that might have caused a problem on Linux. Blurymind - Could you drop me a mail (support@artrage.com) and we can look at a quick test to see if that's the cause of the problem.

[blurymind]

While I don't really know anything about Linux I do know about the ArtRage installer so in case it's any help, here's some info:

The ArtRage installer is just a bootstrapped MSI, same as the ArtRage 3 installer so there shouldn't actually be any difference in how they operate. The AR4 Demo installer is the same as well, if that works then the full one should.

Neither the 4 nor 3.5 installers do anything particularly complex. The most complex part would probably be the thumbnail DLL installer system which checks for the version of the OS and whether it's 32 or 64 bit, then installs the DLL and either tells it to self register (32 bit systems) or runs the DLL registration command from Windows after installation (64 bit systems, due to a quirk of how 64 bit DLLs work).

Ah, of course there is one other big difference: The Style. We shifted to a later installer UI style and that might have caused a problem on Linux. Blurymind - Could you drop me a mail (support@artrage.com) and we can look at a quick test to see if that's the cause of the problem.

Hi, I sent you an email. Would love to help!
AR is my favourite painting app and getting 4 to work on linux would be a treat for the whole artist community that uses it on that OS.
That said, I am pretty sure that it is the installer being the show stopper. There is a way to bypass the issue by installing it in windows and then running it in linux- but that way would potentially cause problems as it doesnt get the registry keys.

The new installer does look very nice and I understand you had to change it to fit windows 8's style a bit more.

I can send you the debug information I get in wine as well, if that is of any use.

right now artrage has an almost silver/gold record for being flawlessly working with wine on linux:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ation&iId=1901
4 is the first version to get a "garbage" status on there. It would be great to turn that back into gold- remove the smear