mixing palette

[hype]

i dabbled in Painter many years ago (v7, i believe), so maybe it has this, but i don't remember seeing it. the only place i've ever seen it is in the painting module in the compositing program Combustion. there's a little palette you can mix colors in and save. its really neat, and the quickest, most useful way to get the range of colors you'd actually get using real paint.

artrage already has that SUPER cool way to make that little window that you drag around the screen to capture colors you want, which is amazing! it'd be awesome, though to just have a little blank palette down there that you could squirt colors into and mix, then save.

but, maybe it does that already and i haven't found it! :oops: if so, please let me know!

other than that, i'd say add watercolors, and maybe make the keyboard shortcuts customizable, then you guys can retire cuz your program will be perfect!!

[Aged P]

There is a way you can get close, with the tip in hints and tips.
Put Paint Tube squirts on a .jpg, then use it as reference image.
But you can't mix it there, which I miss.
Fashmir is also trying things on that thread.

[sbug51]

how about you guys if you could do something like this? as the color increases so does the size of the mixing palette..also aged_p i think you can save the colors you added to the color palette and use them again and again as you like, i use the color palette a lot, to save and well use the color :)

cheers!

[Aged P]

Thanks Sbug, I didn't know that was there!

[sbug51]

:) i hope team ambient noticed it as well,thanx :D

[hype]

wait a sec (i'm at work - not near my computer with artrage on it)...

that little mixing palette is in there? i thought that was something sbug51 created to show what is SHOULD look like, if there was a mixing palette. here's a link to a pic of the combustion one:

http://v4.3dvf.com/DATA/PUBLISH/289/images/13paint.jpg

although, that doesn't really show it at its best. it works the same way artrage's canvas does.

this isn't even that big of a deal. :D there's super easy ways to do this already in artrage. i was just thinking out loud when i started this thread, cuz that combustion palette is pretty sweet - its just a little canvas, you can clear it with one click, you can save palettes, etc...


sbug51, did you graphically create that palette in that picture you posted, or is it really there?

[drzeller]

I'm pretty sure he mocked that up. I just played with the pallette, and I found no way to extend it to expose "the hidden area"!

D.

[PVIllustration]

I've always had this 2 way deal with mixing palettes.

In theory they are nice but since most mixing palettes tend to be very small you will most likely not get a more accurate color pick from actual paint, mixed on a palette, than you would from picking colors from your painting or better yet - from the colorwheel.

To be honest I would put this feature rather far down the list.

[sbug51]

hehe i am not trying to trick you guys, it was rather a suggestion of how would it be nice to have a neat place for a mixing palette, and no it doesn't extend in artrage. :D

[justG]

I'd love a mixing palette. I actually did a Google search to see if I could find a standalone one that I could just keep open in my system tray, like one of the bazillions of "colour picker" applications out there, but I didn't find anything. And hype, ya, Painter has that now. Dunno how it compares to Combustion's, but it's there.

- Gita

[strongmace]

I would love a mixing palette. It is one of the features that I miss from painter. However, in painter I always felt it was too small and therefore too limiting to use properly.

I would suggest that the palette be mapped to a key. When the key is pressed, a full screen palette appears with the main view fading out.

The palette screen would contain the following:
-The stored colors
-The color wheel
-A larger mixing area
-The tools wheel for the brush, tube, and knife.

When the key is pressed again, the palette screen fades out (with that cool bubbly menu effect of course). You would maintain the color you selected when in the palette.

I've attached a very crude sketch of what I described. I suppose it is basically a stripped down normal artrage screen, except it is to be used as a palette. It would be a phenomenal feature.


edit: I'm sure that the UI design would be awesome. Ambient Design does great work! I bet the biggest obstacle is just modelling how paints naturally mix on a palette. That has got to be megatough since it is a fair bit different, to me at least, than how they mix on a canvas.

[DanaF]

I think the colour picker should just be an editable image like the normal canvas. Click a button, it zooms to a certain magnification, edit it then return it to its corner. That way I can constantly update it using artrage tools. A lock button could prevent further editing to prevent accidents.

I also had the urge the other day to tear off the colour picker and move it around my workspace...is this possible?